Wednesday, February 15, 2006

Violence

When is it 'okay' to use violence? Is there such a thing as a "Just War"?

6 Comments:

At February 15, 2006 1:09 PM, Blogger Chris said...

There is no real nets gain from war. There may be gains from security and stability of law and justice, but it is difficult to say whether that outwieghs destruction and death.

Indeed, what is it good for? Absolutely nothing...Good God ya'll.

 
At February 15, 2006 7:03 PM, Blogger Andrew said...

'Just' or 'okay'? Like Travis commented on the Broken Window, it depends on your morals.

But since morals are entirely relative and subjective depending on your specific socioculture and religion (among other things), "justifying" such actions isn't a clear cut matter at all. Attempting to define concepts like this in absolute terms are utterly futile.

The purpose of the United States military? To protect America and further its interests, however that may be defined.

What I'm trying to say? I have no damn clue.

/ramble

 
At February 16, 2006 9:16 AM, Blogger Chris said...

I am not sure if there are truths in this world. I think we can only know what we sense and conceive and that isn't really objective. Perhaps there are objective truths, but how can we really know them, in our human forms and each of us having our own "veil of ignorance".

Try that one on for size...

 
At February 16, 2006 7:14 PM, Blogger Nathanael D Snow said...

Violence is justified when someone's rights are being violated. But it must stop there. If Billy is beating up on Timmy, Lassie is justified in biting Billy. But Lassie must stop biting Billy once Billy has stopped beating Timmy. As a matter of fact, Lassie must use only an equivalent to the marginal amount of force necessary to stop the violation. As further use of force is vengance and is unjustified. This is "just war theory" as I understand it in a nutshell.
Nathan

 
At February 17, 2006 7:34 AM, Blogger Chris said...

I was writing a response to that yesterday and never got back to it.

I think we are always believing ourselves to be superior to the last generation in everything. We are so easily full of ourselves that we think there is no further to go, until someone actually does it. It is like running the 4 minute miles...

It [science] has the good fortune of being able to build upon previous work, but I am not sure if that means we are moving forward.

 
At February 17, 2006 1:08 PM, Blogger Nathanael D Snow said...

Is science improving...
No, I don't think so. Science had its heyday at the same time as free markets. In that season new improvements to the standard of living were occurring at breakneck speeds. There was also a different mentality to science, a different approach. The methodology of science was purer, more inquisitive, more profit driven.
Today much of science has become socialized, and thus tainted and less efficient.
If anyone doubts the efficiency of free markets ask yourself whether you would have rather lived in America or Russia in the 1980's.
As science becomes more socialized it regains aspects of superstition. Hence, America has become much more risk - adverse in recent generations, with too much focus on medical maladies.
Nathan

 

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